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		<title>By: Local: Should voters send Judge Shore packing? &#124; Peoria Pundit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Local: Should voters send Judge Shore packing? &#124; Peoria Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 03:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the jurist who came under some scrutiny for light sentences given to miscreants several years [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Emtronics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emtronics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, this is the first time since Ardis got elected that he has shown any life.  About time.  Too bad it was sooner, at this rate, his next outburst isn&#039;t due until 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this is the first time since Ardis got elected that he has shown any life.  About time.  Too bad it was sooner, at this rate, his next outburst isn&#8217;t due until 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say that, Billy. I made the comment about sentences getting extended for bad behavior. cgiselle said that. If someone is posting with the name cgiselle and using my email, they should stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say that, Billy. I made the comment about sentences getting extended for bad behavior. cgiselle said that. If someone is posting with the name cgiselle and using my email, they should stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory: &quot;Ardis&#039; rhetoric is just that, political rhetoric. &lt;b&gt;Why isn&#039;t he yelling about improving District 150, or lamenting the state of some of our neighborhoods (pick your depressed favorite)? &lt;/b&gt;&quot;

Haven&#039;t been paying attention for the last 18 months, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory: &#8220;Ardis&#8217; rhetoric is just that, political rhetoric. <b>Why isn&#8217;t he yelling about improving District 150, or lamenting the state of some of our neighborhoods (pick your depressed favorite)? </b>&#8221;</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t been paying attention for the last 18 months, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Silence NoGood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silence NoGood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a horrible judgement - Some 16 year old idiot shoots a gun out a car window and gets a lighter probation than someone who steals a candy bar. Thats great! Things are really improving here in good &#039;ole Peoria. If this stupid kid gets picked up next week for robbing senior citizens outside a church parking lot, then he may just get 5 years probation. Thats the most ridiculous sentence I have heard all year. I am glad that Mayor Ardis also thought...hey, what the hell just happened? Is this real. That just goes to show that Ardis really does take crime seriously - now, I still want to see what happens however, voicing the concern and noticing what just happened is the first step.

But, (judge says) this was a hard working kid.??? Are you F&#039;n kidding me?

So, he works at McDonalds at night and shoots guns out his car window during the day at strangers. Yeah, he needs a job to buy more guns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a horrible judgement &#8211; Some 16 year old idiot shoots a gun out a car window and gets a lighter probation than someone who steals a candy bar. Thats great! Things are really improving here in good &#8216;ole Peoria. If this stupid kid gets picked up next week for robbing senior citizens outside a church parking lot, then he may just get 5 years probation. Thats the most ridiculous sentence I have heard all year. I am glad that Mayor Ardis also thought&#8230;hey, what the hell just happened? Is this real. That just goes to show that Ardis really does take crime seriously &#8211; now, I still want to see what happens however, voicing the concern and noticing what just happened is the first step.</p>
<p>But, (judge says) this was a hard working kid.??? Are you F&#8217;n kidding me?</p>
<p>So, he works at McDonalds at night and shoots guns out his car window during the day at strangers. Yeah, he needs a job to buy more guns.</p>
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		<title>By: cgiselle12</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgiselle12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Study after study after study has shown that stiffer penalties are not the end-all-be-all for crime prevention. Sure, they help a bit. But look at the &quot;War on Drugs&quot; Reagan started. Since then, all sorts of really stiff penalties have been enacted for people who are caught with drugs, use drugs or sell drugs. But where are we now? Meth labs are all over the midwest, people still smoke pot, crack, shoot up, etc. etc. Some war on drugs. Nothing has gotten any better. And plenty of people we all know, average folks, did some jail time for having a joint at a rock concert. But funny, how there are still folks around dealing nasty shit and creating more junkies.

Lock em up and throw away the key is not the answer. A stronger community. A community in which everyone has opportunities to succeed is the answer. After school programs and good education are the answer. But this is a problem not just for Peoria, but the entire freakin&#039; country. Our system is fucked. 

I suppose you could call me a &quot;throw money into social programs&quot; liberal if you want. Go ahead, but I simply notice what has worked. Stiffer penalties and fines for crimes doesn&#039;t stop gangs from forming. A lack of hope and opportunity does. Swedish people pay lots of taxes, a lot of which goes into social programs and education. How many problems do the Swedish have with gangs? Not even close to as many as US cities do. I was recently in Europe, and talked with a Ukranian woman about how nice Sweden and it&#039;s economy and prosperity are, and how stuck up they are about it. People from depressed European countries (most Eastern Europe) move to Sweden because of this.

I was probably one of the few people who read this article today to think, &quot;Wow. What a thoughtful judge, who considered this case enough to get beyond the political rhetoric. Who took enough time to notice that this was a kid who fucked up, but it&#039;s his first time. Maybe I&#039;ll cut him some slack.&quot; 

Yes, it&#039;s stupid to go firing a shotgun, midday, at another moving car. And this is rather extreme. But what kind of stupid shit did you do when you were in your teens? Did you drive when you were pretty much blind drunk? I did. How is that any less dangerous than what this kid did? The potential to kill random people is exactly the same.

Ardis&#039; rhetoric is just that, political rhetoric. Why isn&#039;t he yelling about improving District 150, or lamenting the state of some of our neighborhoods (pick your depressed favorite)? Crime is easy to make noise about. The difficult job of being a good leader is in truly improving your entire community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Study after study after study has shown that stiffer penalties are not the end-all-be-all for crime prevention. Sure, they help a bit. But look at the &#8220;War on Drugs&#8221; Reagan started. Since then, all sorts of really stiff penalties have been enacted for people who are caught with drugs, use drugs or sell drugs. But where are we now? Meth labs are all over the midwest, people still smoke pot, crack, shoot up, etc. etc. Some war on drugs. Nothing has gotten any better. And plenty of people we all know, average folks, did some jail time for having a joint at a rock concert. But funny, how there are still folks around dealing nasty shit and creating more junkies.</p>
<p>Lock em up and throw away the key is not the answer. A stronger community. A community in which everyone has opportunities to succeed is the answer. After school programs and good education are the answer. But this is a problem not just for Peoria, but the entire freakin&#8217; country. Our system is fucked. </p>
<p>I suppose you could call me a &#8220;throw money into social programs&#8221; liberal if you want. Go ahead, but I simply notice what has worked. Stiffer penalties and fines for crimes doesn&#8217;t stop gangs from forming. A lack of hope and opportunity does. Swedish people pay lots of taxes, a lot of which goes into social programs and education. How many problems do the Swedish have with gangs? Not even close to as many as US cities do. I was recently in Europe, and talked with a Ukranian woman about how nice Sweden and it&#8217;s economy and prosperity are, and how stuck up they are about it. People from depressed European countries (most Eastern Europe) move to Sweden because of this.</p>
<p>I was probably one of the few people who read this article today to think, &#8220;Wow. What a thoughtful judge, who considered this case enough to get beyond the political rhetoric. Who took enough time to notice that this was a kid who fucked up, but it&#8217;s his first time. Maybe I&#8217;ll cut him some slack.&#8221; </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s stupid to go firing a shotgun, midday, at another moving car. And this is rather extreme. But what kind of stupid shit did you do when you were in your teens? Did you drive when you were pretty much blind drunk? I did. How is that any less dangerous than what this kid did? The potential to kill random people is exactly the same.</p>
<p>Ardis&#8217; rhetoric is just that, political rhetoric. Why isn&#8217;t he yelling about improving District 150, or lamenting the state of some of our neighborhoods (pick your depressed favorite)? Crime is easy to make noise about. The difficult job of being a good leader is in truly improving your entire community.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of you who are outraged at our local judge, read this about the shoe bomber&#039;s judge...

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. 

His  response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the  record, Reid also admitted his &quot;allegiance to Osama bin Laden,  to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,&quot; defiantly stated &quot;I think I will not  apologize for my actions,&quot; and told the court &quot;I am at war with your  country.&quot; 

Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted  below: 

January 30,  2003, United  States vs. Reid. Judge Young: 

&quot;Mr.  Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. 

On counts 1, 5 and 6  the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United  States Attorney  General.  On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years  in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the  other. That&#039;s 80 years.  On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed.  The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government&#039;s recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet  and $5,784 to American Airlines.  The Court imposes upon you the $800  special assessment. 

The  Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law  requires it.  But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.  This is the sentence that is provided for by our  statutes. It is a fair and just sentence.  It is a righteous  sentence. 

Let  me explain this to you.  We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist  co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.  We are Americans.  We have been through  the fire before.  There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect.  Here in this court, we deal with  individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals.  As  human beings, we reach out for  justice. 

You are  not an enemy combatant.  You are a terrorist.  You are not a soldier in any war.  You are a terrorist.  To give you that reference, to call  you a soldier, gives you far too much stature.  Whether it is the officers  of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or if you think you are a soldier.  You are not----- you are a terrorist.  And we do not  negotiate with terrorists.  We do not meet with terrorists.  We do not  sign documents with terrorists.  We hunt them down one by one and bring  them to justice. 

So  war talk is way out of line in this court.  You are a big fellow. But you are not that big.  You&#039;re no warrior.  I&#039;ve know warriors.  You  are a terrorist.  A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple  attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it  right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered  where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: &quot;You&#039;re no big  deal.&quot; 

You  are no big deal. 

What  your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have  grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with,  is why you did something so horrific.  What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I  have listened respectfully to what you have to say.  And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing.  And I have an answer for you.  It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire  record, it comes as close to understanding as I  know. 

It  seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our  freedom.  Our individual freedom.  Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.  Here, in this society, the very wind carries  freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea.  It is  because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful  courtroom.  So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is  administered fairly, individually, and discretely.  It is for freedom&#039;s  sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed  appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other  judges. 

We  Americans are all about freedom.   Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.  Make no mistake though.  It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms.  Look around this courtroom.  Mark it  well.  The world is not going to long remember what you or I say  here.  Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will  long endure.  Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people  will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war,  individual justice is in fact being done.  The very President of the United  States through his officers come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which  specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit  and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense  of justice. 

See  that flag, Mr. Reid?  That&#039;s the flag of the United States of  America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.  That flag stands for freedom.  And it always s  will. 

Mr.  Custody Officer.  Stand him  down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who are outraged at our local judge, read this about the shoe bomber&#8217;s judge&#8230;</p>
<p>Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to say. </p>
<p>His  response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the  record, Reid also admitted his &#8220;allegiance to Osama bin Laden,  to Islam, and to the religion of Allah,&#8221; defiantly stated &#8220;I think I will not  apologize for my actions,&#8221; and told the court &#8220;I am at war with your  country.&#8221; </p>
<p>Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted  below: </p>
<p>January 30,  2003, United  States vs. Reid. Judge Young: </p>
<p>&#8220;Mr.  Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. </p>
<p>On counts 1, 5 and 6  the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United  States Attorney  General.  On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years  in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the  other. That&#8217;s 80 years.  On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed.  The Court imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the government&#8217;s recommendation with respect to restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet  and $5,784 to American Airlines.  The Court imposes upon you the $800  special assessment. </p>
<p>The  Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because the law  requires it.  But the life sentences are real life sentences so I need go no further.  This is the sentence that is provided for by our  statutes. It is a fair and just sentence.  It is a righteous  sentence. </p>
<p>Let  me explain this to you.  We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist  co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.  We are Americans.  We have been through  the fire before.  There is all too much war talk here and I say that to everyone with the utmost respect.  Here in this court, we deal with  individuals as individuals and care for individuals as individuals.  As  human beings, we reach out for  justice. </p>
<p>You are  not an enemy combatant.  You are a terrorist.  You are not a soldier in any war.  You are a terrorist.  To give you that reference, to call  you a soldier, gives you far too much stature.  Whether it is the officers  of government who do it or your attorney who does it, or if you think you are a soldier.  You are not&#8212;&#8211; you are a terrorist.  And we do not  negotiate with terrorists.  We do not meet with terrorists.  We do not  sign documents with terrorists.  We hunt them down one by one and bring  them to justice. </p>
<p>So  war talk is way out of line in this court.  You are a big fellow. But you are not that big.  You&#8217;re no warrior.  I&#8217;ve know warriors.  You  are a terrorist.  A species of criminal that is guilty of multiple  attempted murders. In a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it  right when you first were taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered  where the press and where the TV crews were, and he said: &#8220;You&#8217;re no big  deal.&#8221; </p>
<p>You  are no big deal. </p>
<p>What  your able counsel and what the equally able United States attorneys have  grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know how tried to grapple with,  is why you did something so horrific.  What was it that led you here to this courtroom today?</p>
<p>I  have listened respectfully to what you have to say.  And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing.  And I have an answer for you.  It may not satisfy you, but as I search this entire  record, it comes as close to understanding as I  know. </p>
<p>It  seems to me you hate the one thing that to us is most precious. You hate our  freedom.  Our individual freedom.  Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.  Here, in this society, the very wind carries  freedom. It carries it everywhere from sea to shining sea.  It is  because we prize individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful  courtroom.  So that everyone can see, truly see, that justice is  administered fairly, individually, and discretely.  It is for freedom&#8217;s  sake that your lawyers are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed  appeals, will go on in their representation of you before other  judges. </p>
<p>We  Americans are all about freedom.   Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties.  Make no mistake though.  It is yet true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our freedoms.  Look around this courtroom.  Mark it  well.  The world is not going to long remember what you or I say  here.  Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but this, however, will  long endure.  Here in this courtroom and courtrooms all across America, the American people  will gather to see that justice, individual justice, justice, not war,  individual justice is in fact being done.  The very President of the United  States through his officers come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which  specific matters can be judged and juries of citizens will gather to sit  and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense  of justice. </p>
<p>See  that flag, Mr. Reid?  That&#8217;s the flag of the United States of  America. That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten.  That flag stands for freedom.  And it always s  will. </p>
<p>Mr.  Custody Officer.  Stand him  down.</p>
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