That’s not a really unusual salary for a private college professor given Bradley’s circumstances with Caterpillar in town and their engineering program.
I did find it interesting that the President of Bradley University doesn’t make as much money as the top paid government K-12 school district Superintendent in Illinois. From a Nov. 22, 2006 Chicago Tribune article titled “School pay tops $300,000″ -
“At the top was Gary Catalani, superintendent of Wheaton-based Community Unit School District 200, who made $380,227 last school year. Catalani, who is retiring when school ends in 2007, could not be reached for comment.”
If anyone ever tries to tell you teachers are underpaid, don’t believe them. That may have been true 20 years ago but it isn’t today. Most Chicago and suburbs government K-12 schools have at least 10% of their teachers making 6 figures. And the average teacher pension in Illinois was $44,000 in 2003 and probably close to $50,000 by now.
What I found interesting about Bradley’s President was that he makes more than the President of ISU who is responsible for a school nearly 4 times as large. Makes me thankful that I didn’t waste my money going there… I wasted it at a public university.
Jeff, that’s bull. Most of my family are teachers, and I’ll tell you that they don’t make much, even after being in the system for a LONG time. Not to mention the unpaid, off-the-clock hours that they log…
Chicago is not Peoria. I would suggest that if 10% of the Chicago teachers make 6 figures, then 10% are in upper management and/or worked out some sweet deal with the Chicago School District.
No-one I know comes close to that.
We expect teachers to educate our kids, yet we don’t want to pay them a decent salary, and then we bitch about bad schools?!
PI, the average BASE teacher salary in Illinois ranks 7th in the US at $55,629 per 9 months based on the NEA’s own research for 2005. The average household (entire household income) in Illnois for 2005 is $47,367 from the US Census Bureau. The “poorest” district in Illinois (based on money spent per student AND average teacher salary) in 2005 had an average teacher salary of $39,000 and that was in Washington, IL. In 2003, the average teacher pension in Illinois was over $44,000 and it’s probably close to $50,000 now.
The average salary at D150 was $58,216 in 2005 and 12% made more than $80,000 - which is pretty equivalent to $100,000 in the Chicago area.
I have teachers in my family (downstate) also and they are doing just fine. I’ll let my facts back up my “bull”. What have you got besides family complaining about not being able to afford a half million dollar home?
BTW you can look up the salaries on local teachers at http://www.thechampion.org and everyone can see for themselves.
Several things factor in at Bradley. They get grants from Cat. for research and Cat. employs many Bradley grads in engineering. A private college can give incentives for those things. He probably has been teaching there many years. He may do outside consulting work, which might be factored into that salary judging from them including stock options for John Brazil. He may (probably) own patents and receives residual income. He may have picked up extra classes (overtime) and that salary is based on an anomaly year. Or several of those combined most likely.
I’m not outraged at all at any salary being paid at any private university. It’s private. No tax money involved, except maybe grants and loans — which are a benefit to the students.
More power to ‘em. If parents thinks the cost of tuition is worth it, who am I to argue with the free market.
Well my son is a teacher and they don’t pay him shit. He spends long hours grading papers and attending after school meetings for no extra pay. If you want to know what every single teacher makes in Illinois, then go to this website and look it up. Notice that in District 150 Sanford Farkash, who no one reallys knows what he does, makes damn near top salary. http://www.thechampion.org/tea.....teacher.pl
Um because engineers outside of education get big bucks. If you want competent engineers teaching then you need to lure them from the private sector and retain them.
Kind of makes you want to encourage your kids to become engineers.
It is an irony that college admissions nationwide are at an all time high, yet engineering graduates are at an all time low.
Extra hours? Oh like the month off at christmas? Or is that the 3 months off in the summer that youre talking about? Teachers are very fairly compensated. They make good money for…9 months of work. Get serious.
About university faculty; remember that Bradley professors also have research obligations.
The faculty in the engineering colleges are under pressure to bring in revenue in the form of outside grants. Also, the engineering and business colleges attract the students who have the least amount of discounts; hence they get paid more.
I teach in the mathematics department. I publish, but I tend to research in areas that are of interest to me rather than those areas which might attract grant money.
Hence, my salary is considerably lower, though my teaching load is a bit higher than that of an engineering professor.
MMJ sez: “They make good money for…9 months of work. ”
I sez: Teaching ain’t so easy. Everyone thinks they know about teaching because THEY went to school. Teaching goes way beyond the 8:15-2:30 school day. It goes way beyond the 180 school day claendar. It goes way beyond making checkmarks with a red pen.
Those nine months of work, they are caring and teaching OUR CHILDREN! The future of the country. How are they rewarded? With pay that is “good” for “9 months of work.”
Well, it is universally accepted that the lowest paying professions, based on working conditions and job responsibilities are Paramedics, Soldiers, Police Officers and Teachers. Teachers may pull close to 50k, but would you want to try to teach a room full of gangbangers that are disruptive and disrespectful. The same gangbangers the cops chase and the same gang bangers that shoot at each other. the same ones that the paramedics try to save after they are actually hit. Over 100 people shot this year in Peoria now too btw.
I am not sure exactly what paramedics make, but out of that group soldiers are hands down paid the least of all of those groups. Thats far more of a travesty than how much we pay teachers.
“If anyone ever tries to tell you teachers are underpaid, don’t believe them”
HA! The first several years my mother worked as a teacher it actually COST HER MORE TO BE EMPLOYED THAN SHE MADE because she had to pay for after-school child care for one child — not to mention virtually all the supplies AND BOOKS for her classroom because the district can’t afford it and has rejected tax referendums for the schools several straight times. (She’s an English teacher and obviously can’t teach without books. She routinely drops $500 at amazon for classroom-sized sets of books her class needs.) Only after she got tenure and my brother became self-caring-for did teaching become a profit venture. And she’s sure not making the big bucks … and she works waaaaaaaaaaaay longer hours than my six-figure lawyer dad.
And, I must add, she’s on the highest “rank” in the payscale for her district, having earned a Masters 30.
I know private tutors working 30 hours a week who make three times what my mother makes.
Mouse … the reports indicate that the injuries were few and minor. Still, a roof in the state of Illinois HAS to be able to handle 18 inches of show. It just does. That level of accumulation isn’t common, but it’s a dead certainty that during the life of a building there’s going to be that much snowfall at least once.
I still can’t believe some people think teachers make too much money. I remember my high school phys ed teacher taking a painting job in the summer to keep the money coming in so he could raise his four daughters, my accounting teacher working as a tour guide, our high school PRINCIPAL doing construction in the summer, my high school football coach laying sod…the list goes on and on. Here in Kewanee, the neighbor lady right behind us is a teacher who had to give up coaching varsity volleyball this year because it was costing her too much in personal expenses, and two houses down is another teacher/coach who mowed lawns for money this summer.
But they make too much money from teaching? Anon, we finally agree on something. BTW, Morton, eh? Explains the political leanings. Didn’t see you at the last hockey game (at least not that I know of). I’ll be there December 6th, 9th, and 15th. Stop by.
BJ, Don’t feel so bad. Some of the feelings us Cops feel after reading some of theses posts effect us as well. I personally think Teachers can’t make enough no matter how much they are paid. We deal with those same students who think they know the law after a 6th grade education. Most of us are for arming teachers in the classroom and giving them powers of arrest. Good kids don’t have to worry. But it will the “parents” of thug drug dealing gangbangers that will complain to the ACLU and NAACP. Kinda why everyone is moving away from those type of people.
What gets me about the ‘teachers are overpaid’ argument, is that we give them full responsibility and expect them to educate our children. They should be compensated immensely for that.
Someone find me a teacher who says they chose that profession for the money. Not going to happen.
To add to that; some people not only expect teachers to teach our children, they expect them to baby sit them, feed them, and in some cases, clothe them because some parents can’t be bothered with their kids…. unless you blame one of them for doing sosmething wrong, then they arrrive with bells on in the office demanding the teacher’s head on a platter until they are shown that their kid really did what ever it was and then 9 times out of 10, out comes the race card.
Emtronics - you summed it up well. My wife was a teacher and, before we had our own kids, we always had one or another of her students hanging around. The stories I overheard of parental neglect broke my heart.
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November 30th, 2006 at 4:25 pm
whats up with tthat bradley engineer making 200g’s
November 30th, 2006 at 9:44 pm
“Bradley mechanical engineering professor D. Paul Mehta was second in earnings with $231,224″
http://pjstar.com/stories/1130......008.shtml
November 30th, 2006 at 10:11 pm
That’s not a really unusual salary for a private college professor given Bradley’s circumstances with Caterpillar in town and their engineering program.
I did find it interesting that the President of Bradley University doesn’t make as much money as the top paid government K-12 school district Superintendent in Illinois. From a Nov. 22, 2006 Chicago Tribune article titled “School pay tops $300,000″ -
“At the top was Gary Catalani, superintendent of Wheaton-based Community Unit School District 200, who made $380,227 last school year. Catalani, who is retiring when school ends in 2007, could not be reached for comment.”
If anyone ever tries to tell you teachers are underpaid, don’t believe them. That may have been true 20 years ago but it isn’t today. Most Chicago and suburbs government K-12 schools have at least 10% of their teachers making 6 figures. And the average teacher pension in Illinois was $44,000 in 2003 and probably close to $50,000 by now.
November 30th, 2006 at 11:15 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/.....index.html
November 30th, 2006 at 11:16 pm
What I found interesting about Bradley’s President was that he makes more than the President of ISU who is responsible for a school nearly 4 times as large. Makes me thankful that I didn’t waste my money going there… I wasted it at a public university.
November 30th, 2006 at 11:38 pm
Jeff, that’s bull. Most of my family are teachers, and I’ll tell you that they don’t make much, even after being in the system for a LONG time. Not to mention the unpaid, off-the-clock hours that they log…
Chicago is not Peoria. I would suggest that if 10% of the Chicago teachers make 6 figures, then 10% are in upper management and/or worked out some sweet deal with the Chicago School District.
No-one I know comes close to that.
We expect teachers to educate our kids, yet we don’t want to pay them a decent salary, and then we bitch about bad schools?!
C’mon!
December 1st, 2006 at 12:03 am
PI, the average BASE teacher salary in Illinois ranks 7th in the US at $55,629 per 9 months based on the NEA’s own research for 2005. The average household (entire household income) in Illnois for 2005 is $47,367 from the US Census Bureau. The “poorest” district in Illinois (based on money spent per student AND average teacher salary) in 2005 had an average teacher salary of $39,000 and that was in Washington, IL. In 2003, the average teacher pension in Illinois was over $44,000 and it’s probably close to $50,000 now.
The average salary at D150 was $58,216 in 2005 and 12% made more than $80,000 - which is pretty equivalent to $100,000 in the Chicago area.
I have teachers in my family (downstate) also and they are doing just fine. I’ll let my facts back up my “bull”. What have you got besides family complaining about not being able to afford a half million dollar home?
BTW you can look up the salaries on local teachers at http://www.thechampion.org and everyone can see for themselves.
December 1st, 2006 at 1:07 am
Why do engineering prof get the big bucks?
December 1st, 2006 at 1:35 am
Several things factor in at Bradley. They get grants from Cat. for research and Cat. employs many Bradley grads in engineering. A private college can give incentives for those things. He probably has been teaching there many years. He may do outside consulting work, which might be factored into that salary judging from them including stock options for John Brazil. He may (probably) own patents and receives residual income. He may have picked up extra classes (overtime) and that salary is based on an anomaly year. Or several of those combined most likely.
December 1st, 2006 at 2:07 am
I’m not outraged at all at any salary being paid at any private university. It’s private. No tax money involved, except maybe grants and loans — which are a benefit to the students.
More power to ‘em. If parents thinks the cost of tuition is worth it, who am I to argue with the free market.
December 1st, 2006 at 7:35 am
Well my son is a teacher and they don’t pay him shit. He spends long hours grading papers and attending after school meetings for no extra pay. If you want to know what every single teacher makes in Illinois, then go to this website and look it up. Notice that in District 150 Sanford Farkash, who no one reallys knows what he does, makes damn near top salary.
http://www.thechampion.org/tea.....teacher.pl
December 1st, 2006 at 7:43 am
“Why do engineering prof get the big bucks?”
Um because engineers outside of education get big bucks. If you want competent engineers teaching then you need to lure them from the private sector and retain them.
Kind of makes you want to encourage your kids to become engineers.
It is an irony that college admissions nationwide are at an all time high, yet engineering graduates are at an all time low.
December 1st, 2006 at 8:55 am
Extra hours? Oh like the month off at christmas? Or is that the 3 months off in the summer that youre talking about? Teachers are very fairly compensated. They make good money for…9 months of work. Get serious.
December 1st, 2006 at 9:00 am
SNOW!
December 1st, 2006 at 10:15 am
About university faculty; remember that Bradley professors also have research obligations.
The faculty in the engineering colleges are under pressure to bring in revenue in the form of outside grants. Also, the engineering and business colleges attract the students who have the least amount of discounts; hence they get paid more.
I teach in the mathematics department. I publish, but I tend to research in areas that are of interest to me rather than those areas which might attract grant money.
Hence, my salary is considerably lower, though my teaching load is a bit higher than that of an engineering professor.
But I am in no dangers of getting ulcers either.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:40 am
MMJ sez: “They make good money for…9 months of work. ”
I sez: Teaching ain’t so easy. Everyone thinks they know about teaching because THEY went to school. Teaching goes way beyond the 8:15-2:30 school day. It goes way beyond the 180 school day claendar. It goes way beyond making checkmarks with a red pen.
Those nine months of work, they are caring and teaching OUR CHILDREN! The future of the country. How are they rewarded? With pay that is “good” for “9 months of work.”
Teachers don’t get paid near enough.
December 1st, 2006 at 2:10 pm
Well, it is universally accepted that the lowest paying professions, based on working conditions and job responsibilities are Paramedics, Soldiers, Police Officers and Teachers. Teachers may pull close to 50k, but would you want to try to teach a room full of gangbangers that are disruptive and disrespectful. The same gangbangers the cops chase and the same gang bangers that shoot at each other. the same ones that the paramedics try to save after they are actually hit. Over 100 people shot this year in Peoria now too btw.
December 1st, 2006 at 4:35 pm
I am not sure exactly what paramedics make, but out of that group soldiers are hands down paid the least of all of those groups. Thats far more of a travesty than how much we pay teachers.
December 1st, 2006 at 4:55 pm
“If anyone ever tries to tell you teachers are underpaid, don’t believe them”
HA! The first several years my mother worked as a teacher it actually COST HER MORE TO BE EMPLOYED THAN SHE MADE because she had to pay for after-school child care for one child — not to mention virtually all the supplies AND BOOKS for her classroom because the district can’t afford it and has rejected tax referendums for the schools several straight times. (She’s an English teacher and obviously can’t teach without books. She routinely drops $500 at amazon for classroom-sized sets of books her class needs.) Only after she got tenure and my brother became self-caring-for did teaching become a profit venture. And she’s sure not making the big bucks … and she works waaaaaaaaaaaay longer hours than my six-figure lawyer dad.
And, I must add, she’s on the highest “rank” in the payscale for her district, having earned a Masters 30.
I know private tutors working 30 hours a week who make three times what my mother makes.
December 1st, 2006 at 4:56 pm
That was a “masters plus 30″ but Billy has rejected my plus sign.
December 1st, 2006 at 5:15 pm
… all part of my evil scheme to do away with arithmetic.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
December 1st, 2006 at 11:19 pm
About the “Sharon Woods” Home roof collapse.
http://www.pjstar.com/stories/......012.shtml
The East Peoria Fire Department was called to man Peoria’s Central Fire Station, which had responded to the emergency call.
December 1st, 2006 at 11:31 pm
Mouse … the reports indicate that the injuries were few and minor. Still, a roof in the state of Illinois HAS to be able to handle 18 inches of show. It just does. That level of accumulation isn’t common, but it’s a dead certainty that during the life of a building there’s going to be that much snowfall at least once.
December 2nd, 2006 at 12:57 am
I am just glad it wasn’t catastrophic.
December 2nd, 2006 at 1:22 am
I still can’t believe some people think teachers make too much money. I remember my high school phys ed teacher taking a painting job in the summer to keep the money coming in so he could raise his four daughters, my accounting teacher working as a tour guide, our high school PRINCIPAL doing construction in the summer, my high school football coach laying sod…the list goes on and on. Here in Kewanee, the neighbor lady right behind us is a teacher who had to give up coaching varsity volleyball this year because it was costing her too much in personal expenses, and two houses down is another teacher/coach who mowed lawns for money this summer.
But they make too much money from teaching? Anon, we finally agree on something. BTW, Morton, eh? Explains the political leanings. Didn’t see you at the last hockey game (at least not that I know of). I’ll be there December 6th, 9th, and 15th. Stop by.
December 2nd, 2006 at 1:49 pm
BJ, Don’t feel so bad. Some of the feelings us Cops feel after reading some of theses posts effect us as well. I personally think Teachers can’t make enough no matter how much they are paid. We deal with those same students who think they know the law after a 6th grade education. Most of us are for arming teachers in the classroom and giving them powers of arrest. Good kids don’t have to worry. But it will the “parents” of thug drug dealing gangbangers that will complain to the ACLU and NAACP. Kinda why everyone is moving away from those type of people.
December 2nd, 2006 at 2:13 pm
What gets me about the ‘teachers are overpaid’ argument, is that we give them full responsibility and expect them to educate our children. They should be compensated immensely for that.
Someone find me a teacher who says they chose that profession for the money. Not going to happen.
December 2nd, 2006 at 3:34 pm
To add to that; some people not only expect teachers to teach our children, they expect them to baby sit them, feed them, and in some cases, clothe them because some parents can’t be bothered with their kids…. unless you blame one of them for doing sosmething wrong, then they arrrive with bells on in the office demanding the teacher’s head on a platter until they are shown that their kid really did what ever it was and then 9 times out of 10, out comes the race card.
December 2nd, 2006 at 3:58 pm
Emtronics - you summed it up well. My wife was a teacher and, before we had our own kids, we always had one or another of her students hanging around. The stories I overheard of parental neglect broke my heart.
BJ - see you on the 9th, most likely.