Comments on: Crime down, murder up http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/ Media and news from the original river city Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:47:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: organizer http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/comment-page-1/#comment-74311 organizer Mon, 08 Jan 2007 08:04:38 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/#comment-74311 Until some windfall funding come in for hundreds of new officers citizens will have to get more involved. I.E. active calling on community and family members to speak up. Bet you 9:1 some one knew these shooters in every case were packing. Someone decent law abiding relatice aunt, uncles, people they would have listened to but no one called them on the carpet, no one challenged anyone. Sad Bill Rutherford was right sometimes silence isn't golden sometimes it is just plain yellow Until some windfall funding come in for hundreds of new officers citizens will have to get more involved. I.E. active calling on community and family members to speak up. Bet you 9:1 some one knew these shooters in every case were packing. Someone decent law abiding relatice aunt, uncles, people they would have listened to but no one called them on the carpet, no one challenged anyone. Sad Bill Rutherford was right sometimes silence isn’t golden sometimes it is just plain yellow

]]> By: ghetto http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/comment-page-1/#comment-72231 ghetto Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:15:01 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/#comment-72231 I think you are living in dream land Billie. Personally I did not really think anyone was stupid enough to belive the falling crime numbers that the chief likes to throw around. Walk into any local shop and ask the people what they think about crime and listen to what you hear. Petty crime numbers are down becase most people dont even wast their time calling the police. An officer told me last week that he figures about 1 out of 10 cases of shots fired actually get called in. Living in an area with a high number of shots fired I find that number easy to belive. As to your logic of busting low level dealers, what exactly do you think that will fix. I can point out crack houses that have been in opperation for years. If the police shut down the home, the gangs have new people in selling within a day. But yes Billie crime is down and the chief has the statistics to prove it. Who was it that said "we have lies, damn lies, and statistics". I think you are living in dream land Billie. Personally I did not really think anyone was stupid enough to belive the falling crime numbers that the chief likes to throw around. Walk into any local shop and ask the people what they think about crime and listen to what you hear. Petty crime numbers are down becase most people dont even wast their time calling the police. An officer told me last week that he figures about 1 out of 10 cases of shots fired actually get called in. Living in an area with a high number of shots fired I find that number easy to belive. As to your logic of busting low level dealers, what exactly do you think that will fix. I can point out crack houses that have been in opperation for years. If the police shut down the home, the gangs have new people in selling within a day. But yes Billie crime is down and the chief has the statistics to prove it. Who was it that said “we have lies, damn lies, and statistics”.

]]> By: Peo Proud http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/comment-page-1/#comment-72217 Peo Proud Fri, 05 Jan 2007 13:35:39 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/#comment-72217 I'm not sure I'd agree that "sufficient numbers" equals "saturation". There are times where more are needed in specific areas and less in other areas. I’m not sure I’d agree that “sufficient numbers” equals “saturation”. There are times where more are needed in specific areas and less in other areas.

]]> By: Mahkno http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/comment-page-1/#comment-72143 Mahkno Fri, 05 Jan 2007 03:49:51 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/01/04/crime-down-murder-up/#comment-72143 The problem is that POP basicly proves they need more officers. Where they allocate sufficient numbers of officers (ie saturation) all is good but that leaves everywhere else short. The chief is making do with what he has and seems to be doing good with it but the reality as I see it, is there just are not enough. Why do we even call it saturation anyways? It would seem to me that saturation would imply having way more than necessary. What is really going on is that where 'saturation' occurs we really are actually achieving and providing the basic service people expect. The problem is that POP basicly proves they need more officers. Where they allocate sufficient numbers of officers (ie saturation) all is good but that leaves everywhere else short. The chief is making do with what he has and seems to be doing good with it but the reality as I see it, is there just are not enough.

Why do we even call it saturation anyways? It would seem to me that saturation would imply having way more than necessary. What is really going on is that where ’saturation’ occurs we really are actually achieving and providing the basic service people expect.

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