When I see a major failure of a war going on, and the best our leader can do is lie, dodge questions, and spit out such idiocy as “stay the course”, when in fact, there IS NO course, I can’t get behind that. There will never be “enough soldiers” to in any way “end” this debacle. It’s like giving whiskey to a dying alcoholic with the hope that too much will have some miracle reverse effect.

Almost every credible Dem I ever heard on television was on line with Gen. Eric Shinseki and his desire of 300,000 or so troops. Remember, he was “fired” for such heresy.

Go back and read the excellant pieces in the Atlantic magazine where those folks doing the post-war planning were shut out, excluded and ignored from the start. Go back and look at Gen Tommy Frank’s original desires and find even HE wanted the 300,000 troops but was pressured by Rumsfeld.

The point is, 20,000 or 30,000 more soliders probably are not enough and the Dems know it. The ammuntions dumps are still left unguarded have been stolen from and continue to be stolen from.

Does anyone really believe that with the way things are in Iraq right now, that in a country of 25 million people, 160,000 American soliders will be now enough?

And to be completely honest – I really do not know how Iraq and its turmoil are going to be solved, if it can be solved, by American soldiers, government and continued presence.

(Really, for those that are religous, here is a way to question yourself over the troubles in Iraq – by force, intimidation or by the outside presence of any outsider do to make you radically change your faith? And if you claim a political system like democracy is unlike that of a religious faith to the middle east, then you really are failing to understand how our “opponents” differ in their perception of what faith means to them.)

This war was coming wether or not 9/11 happened or not. Bush was going to comfront Saddam one way or another. 9/11 happened and Bush and his cronies used it to scare the American Public into that war. I was all for it as I was mad about 9/11 as were all Americans. We wanted to kick some arab ass and Bush provided us Iraq which by the way had nothing to do with 9/11. We should have invaded Saudi Arabia but those are Bush daddies buddies. So, here we are in the biggest cluster f**k ever created. Bush should be impeached but I doubt the Dems have the balls for it.

And maybe, yes, the democrats I elected, who are now running the show, have used generals to advocate both sides. But maybe it was the right idea at both times. It was what the generals were advocating both times. To send in more troops a few years ago and to not send in more troops now. Bush has gone against the generals both times, and look where we are now.

So accuse Democrats of citing retired generals all you want. This Democrat is more than happy to be associated with generals who know what they are doing a hell of a lot better than the fat pols in DC do.