Comments on: Sandberg and city dispute $110 clean-up bill http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/ News, politics and the media in the River City Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:43:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Peo Proud http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86996 Peo Proud Tue, 01 May 2007 12:41:30 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86996 BJ....completely agree. Jazz......agree new faces might help. Emtronics........not everything is about Spain. Let it go. This is entirely about Gary and whether he has to play be the same rules as others and/or whether the ticket he got was justified or not. Only remaining question I have is: will Gary pay before tonigt and if not can he be sworn in? If he doesn't pay, I hope that any "consideration" given to him is the same that would be given to any other citizen. BJ….completely agree.
Jazz……agree new faces might help.
Emtronics……..not everything is about Spain. Let it go. This is entirely about Gary and whether he has to play be the same rules as others and/or whether the ticket he got was justified or not.

Only remaining question I have is: will Gary pay before tonigt and if not can he be sworn in? If he doesn’t pay, I hope that any “consideration” given to him is the same that would be given to any other citizen.

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86991 Emtronics Tue, 01 May 2007 10:05:44 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86991 I like Gray also and generally like what he does on the council. But of late, it seems he has no support from other council members which makes him a distraction more than anything else. But my whole point about Gary was that he started the debate on whether Spain was eligible to take a council seat because of state laws he point out. That is fine but one would think that you would respect the laws and not think they apply to everyone but you. This fine Gary owes and not paying, no matter how it's precieved, is flaunting the law. Something the average citizen can do but not a respected council member. I like Gray also and generally like what he does on the council. But of late, it seems he has no support from other council members which makes him a distraction more than anything else. But my whole point about Gary was that he started the debate on whether Spain was eligible to take a council seat because of state laws he point out. That is fine but one would think that you would respect the laws and not think they apply to everyone but you. This fine Gary owes and not paying, no matter how it’s precieved, is flaunting the law. Something the average citizen can do but not a respected council member.

]]> By: Jazzbass http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86982 Jazzbass Tue, 01 May 2007 04:17:10 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86982 No disrespect Peo Proud...but when has the city council ever accomplished anything "real" anyway? We need new faces...maybe Spain and Montelongo are what we need to change this...maybe some of the usual suspects need to go for there to be change. Sorry Gary V. and others...no disrespect to you as people but maybe it is YOUR time to go! This are stagnent down at City Hall. JB Of course another cynical random thought from the ole JB...I am good at that! No disrespect Peo Proud…but when has the city council ever accomplished anything “real” anyway? We need new faces…maybe Spain and Montelongo are what we need to change this…maybe some of the usual suspects need to go for there to be change. Sorry Gary V. and others…no disrespect to you as people but maybe it is YOUR time to go! This are stagnent down at City Hall.

JB
Of course another cynical random thought from the ole JB…I am good at that!

]]> By: BJ Stone http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86981 BJ Stone Tue, 01 May 2007 03:39:11 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86981 A couple of things: 1. City officials get VERY diligent once they "get you" one time. Somebody left a shattered windshield from a car behind Diane's former home in Peoria, and before we knew it was there (it was behind the garage, facing the alley, which we never used) we got a ticket. There were constant visits up and down our alley after that...they were always looking for some picky little thing. One neighbor actually had to paint their house or face a stiff fine. Guess what? Painting a house runs into the thousands. And the house wasn't THAT bad to begin with. But it's selective enforcement, because four or five doors down the other direction was a house in MUCH worse disrepair, PLUS it housed several large dogs and had a filthy backyard, and they were never ticketed. Three years ago, a house partially burned down on that block, and to this day it sits with plastic covering the exposed burned out portion of the upper floor in the rear of the house. Nothing has been done. 2. Our mistake, apparently, on our "litter" fine was paying it, despite my complaints and protests. Because after we paid it, the visits became more frequent, as if they were saying, "hey, these guys pay, let's find somethin' else to fine 'em for". I guess we should have taken pictures like Gary did and simply refused to pay. I like Gary, and I like what he does on the council, but the impression being given here is one that I DON'T like...you're a city official, so you can just write a letter and refuse to pay. How convenient. A couple of things:

1. City officials get VERY diligent once they “get you” one time. Somebody left a shattered windshield from a car behind Diane’s former home in Peoria, and before we knew it was there (it was behind the garage, facing the alley, which we never used) we got a ticket. There were constant visits up and down our alley after that…they were always looking for some picky little thing. One neighbor actually had to paint their house or face a stiff fine. Guess what? Painting a house runs into the thousands. And the house wasn’t THAT bad to begin with. But it’s selective enforcement, because four or five doors down the other direction was a house in MUCH worse disrepair, PLUS it housed several large dogs and had a filthy backyard, and they were never ticketed. Three years ago, a house partially burned down on that block, and to this day it sits with plastic covering the exposed burned out portion of the upper floor in the rear of the house. Nothing has been done.

2. Our mistake, apparently, on our “litter” fine was paying it, despite my complaints and protests. Because after we paid it, the visits became more frequent, as if they were saying, “hey, these guys pay, let’s find somethin’ else to fine ‘em for”. I guess we should have taken pictures like Gary did and simply refused to pay. I like Gary, and I like what he does on the council, but the impression being given here is one that I DON’T like…you’re a city official, so you can just write a letter and refuse to pay. How convenient.

]]> By: Peo Proud http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86978 Peo Proud Tue, 01 May 2007 01:28:32 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86978 Have to agree that these things are getting out of control -- and petty. The only thing that I find interesting is that it's been unpaid for almost two years and only now is there any attempt to "adjudicate" the ticket and resolve differences. I would hope that this ticket would have been in the administrative hearing officer process if unpaid and/or for adjudication if necessary. As long as our Councilmembers and City staff are focusing on disputes such as this, they will never have time to address the real issues facing Peoria... Have to agree that these things are getting out of control — and petty. The only thing that I find interesting is that it’s been unpaid for almost two years and only now is there any attempt to “adjudicate” the ticket and resolve differences. I would hope that this ticket would have been in the administrative hearing officer process if unpaid and/or for adjudication if necessary.

As long as our Councilmembers and City staff are focusing on disputes such as this, they will never have time to address the real issues facing Peoria…

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86975 Emtronics Tue, 01 May 2007 00:21:49 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86975 Sorry, double posts...Billy your site is slllloooowwww Sorry, double posts…Billy your site is slllloooowwww

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86974 Emtronics Tue, 01 May 2007 00:21:07 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86974 What $50,000? That never played into anything as Mr Lyons has pointed out. So that point is moot, the $110 however still remains. It is saying in effect, "Hey, I am not paying and the hell with you, by the way, I don't think this guy is playing fair." Apples to apples to me? If you want to make stuff up, then fine. What $50,000? That never played into anything as Mr Lyons has pointed out. So that point is moot, the $110 however still remains. It is saying in effect, “Hey, I am not paying and the hell with you, by the way, I don’t think this guy is playing fair.” Apples to apples to me? If you want to make stuff up, then fine.

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86973 Emtronics Tue, 01 May 2007 00:20:44 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86973 What $50,000? That never palyed into anything as Mr Lyons has pointed out. So that point is moot, the $110 however still remains. It is saying in effect, "Hey, I am not paying and the hell with you, by the way, I don't think this guy is playing fair." Apples to apples to me? If you want to make stuff up, then fine. What $50,000? That never palyed into anything as Mr Lyons has pointed out. So that point is moot, the $110 however still remains. It is saying in effect, “Hey, I am not paying and the hell with you, by the way, I don’t think this guy is playing fair.” Apples to apples to me? If you want to make stuff up, then fine.

]]> By: Josh Carter http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86970 Josh Carter Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:19:25 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86970 With respect emtronics-$110-$50,000, I'm no mathematician per se...but thats comparing apples to dogfood. With respect emtronics-$110-$50,000, I’m no mathematician per se…but thats comparing apples to dogfood.

]]> By: Central Peoria http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86969 Central Peoria Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:55:40 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86969 I wish the city was this diligent in checking other houses. I wish the city was this diligent in checking other houses.

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86965 Emtronics Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:18:43 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86965 It's not the fact that it is only $110. that is for the city and Mr Sandburg to work out. I just think, considering it was Sandburg, to point a finger and cry unlawful about the swearing in of a new councilman is pointing a finger where one shouldn't have. I mean, if you live in a glass house, shouldn't you not throw stones? It’s not the fact that it is only $110. that is for the city and Mr Sandburg to work out. I just think, considering it was Sandburg, to point a finger and cry unlawful about the swearing in of a new councilman is pointing a finger where one shouldn’t have. I mean, if you live in a glass house, shouldn’t you not throw stones?

]]> By: Josh Carter http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86951 Josh Carter Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:12:39 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86951 Who cares, if this is breaking news, I don't know where we are headed. $110 ? This is supposedly a big deal. It's official, we've gone to catfighting. Next, the issue at hand will be whether or not Gary uses charmin or angel soft. Who cares, if this is breaking news, I don’t know where we are headed. $110 ? This is supposedly a big deal. It’s official, we’ve gone to catfighting. Next, the issue at hand will be whether or not Gary uses charmin or angel soft.

]]> By: The Peoria Chronicle » Blog Archive » One of the few advantages of not having a day job http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86948 The Peoria Chronicle » Blog Archive » One of the few advantages of not having a day job Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:17:14 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2007/04/30/sandberg-and-city-dispute-110-clean-up-bill/#comment-86948 [...] beat me to publishing this story about Gary Sandberg since he has all day to blog (he works at night). This is the issue about which Emtronics wrote the [...] [...] beat me to publishing this story about Gary Sandberg since he has all day to blog (he works at night). This is the issue about which Emtronics wrote the [...]

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