Campaign Manager Steve Shearer has denied that the recently released poll showing his client Aaron Schock with 58 percent of likely votes in the upcoming Republican primary for the 18th District was in fact a push poll designed to spread negative information about his opponents. He told readers of this blog that poll participants were asked a straightforward question about who they would support.
If this is true, then there was someone out there conducting an unethical Bizarro World version of that poll on Schock’s behalf.
Peoria City Councilman Bob Manning tells me that was polled on the campaign on Tuesday (one of the two days Schock’s poll was conducted by Public Opinion Strategies).
“There is no question is was a push poll,” Manning said. “In fact, it was a negative push poll.”
The Caller ID indicated it was an “out of area” call, which he usually doesn’t answer because they tend to be telemarketers or other pests. But on a lark, he answered. The person on the other end indicated they were conducting a survey, and Manning agreed to participate. At first, the questions were about general national issues. Then the questions turned to the 18th district race.
The questioner stated several pieces of information about each of the candidates, then asked if he would be more or less likely to vote for that candidate because of that information, Manning said.
“It was classic push polling,” he said.
One of the facts about Schock was that by age 18 he had started a business. The information about Jim McConoughey was that he is CEO of the Heartland Partnership, yet won’t say exactly how many jobs that organization can claim to have created. The questioner also claimed that Heartland Partnership was paying for his country club dues. Regarding John Morris, the questioner stated that Morris was responsible for the financial troubles faces by his employer, WTVP; and that while Morris claimed to be anti tax, he nevertheless voted to create the garbage tax and raised sales taxes several times while a member of the Peoria City Council.
Again, all these statements were phrased as a question, Manning said.
I didn’t ask Manning who he intends to vote for. That’s his business, and I’m sure I’ll get a press release if he endorses anybody.
But Manning really doubts that Schock’s numbers are that high. And it’s not just that there is a strong anti-Schock sentiment among GOP voters. Voter support for the McConoughey and Morris is not anti-Schock sentiment as much as it is there are those who believe that either one is a better candidate in their own right, he said. My two cents: From talking to others in the GOP, I think there is a measurable anti-Schock sentiment, and that sentiment is growing after the sell-nukes to Taiwan flap and other miscues.
UPDATED: I messed up the last paragraph, in that I attributed MY conclusion to my source.
Tags: Aaron Schock, Bob Manning, push polling, Steve Shearer
Billy Dennis is a former reporter and editor at small daily and weekly newspapers in Illinois and Missouri. He comments on media, news and politics. He also owns and operates 
Thought you might be interested in this defense of POS’ polling strategies from a POS representative. It’s also interesting that they apparently get accused of push polling so much, they have a page of their own website devoted to defending themselves on the topic.
Gee, a partner with POS defines “push polling” in such a narrow manner that what THEY do doesn’t fit the definition. Who woulda thought …
Judging from what Mr. Manning says, this poll wasn’t designed to JUST change the mind of the person being called, it was designed to ALSO get the numeric results that Schock campaign wanted.
Baby boy has been taking lesson from his Buddy Scumkis from Collinsville.
Welcome to the dirty tricks club AS@. (sic)
Billy
As I said in my previous post:
The head to head question in our poll for which the results were released was asked immediately after questions making sure respondents were registered to vote and were Republicans very likely to vote in the Feb 5th primary. The key question was this:
And, if the Republican primary election for U.S. Congress were being held today, for whom
would you vote… (RANDOMIZE NAMES)
Jim McConoughey
John Morris …or…
Aaron Schock?
The results released were thus were a clean head to head result. NO descriptions of the candidates were mentioned before that key question.
AFTER that, there were questions testing both positive and negative messages about each of the three candidates, including highly negative questions about Aaron Schock.
Then a new test of the strength of the three candidates was asked: “Now that you have heard some more about the three candidates running in the Republican primary for U.S. Congress, for whom would you vote for?
In scientific polling, that is called, “informed ballot.” Here’s a scoop, after those questions were asked–again with both positive and negative questions about each candidate–the results were this:
69% Aaron Schock
8% Jim McConoughey
5% John Morris
Because people not knowing what exactly the questions in that latter segment of poll are, they do tend to discount the results of the “informed ballot” portion of the poll, so I didn’t even bother to release that. The clean head to head question at the beginning of the poll showed Schock with a 44%lead over McConoughey. That is unassailable.
Again, the results of the clean head to head, before any of those questions were asked, was
Schock 58%
McConoughey 14%
Morris %4
This wholly differs with “push polling.” Push polling is done in the final week of a campaign to disseminate negative personal attacks (most of the time fabrications) on a candidate in the guise of asking questions. They don’t even both to tally the results becuase the idea is not to do a poll, but rather just
put out rumors.
People can attack me all they want, but I have never, ever done a push poll. Last year, Aaron Schock ran the most positive campaign in the state. That was a reason the Illinois Committee for Honest Government gave two awards out last winter: to Barrack Obama and Aaron Schock.
You need to remember that when McConoughey’s campaign last released the results of a poll they did, they said, yes, Schock was ahead becuase he had higher name ID, but that when voters were “informed” about each of the candidates, McConoughey rose in their poll. You did not disparage that as a push poll then. You gleefully reported their informed ballot result as a legitimate result of legitimate poll.
So it is a little off the mark to gleefully report one candidate’s informed ballot results and question the other candidate’s “clean” head to head result as a “push poll.”
McConoughey’s campaign said that informed ballot result showed McConoughey could win because when voters learned more about the candidates his support rose. Well right after their poll, both McConoughey and Schock went on the air with TV ads and mailers. McConoughey’s obviously didn’t work as well as they had hoped.
Our polling firm, only does polling, and among national political reporters has a earned a reputation of being accurate, fair and professional. McConoughey’s campaign manager works for the company that does everything from his pencils to his advertising to his polling. Not specializing in polling, I do question some of their results and especially because their is a built in conflict of interest when the company employs the camapaign manager.
In today’s PJS and SJR, Bernie Schoenburg reports that McConoughey’s campaign manager admitted that their last poll taken on Nov 13 and 14 showed Schock with a 20 to 25% lead. Even after the negative press on the Taiwan nuke comment.
Schock’s candidacy is simply resonating with voters more.
If anyone believes the comments questioning the reputation of the polling company we used, Public Opinion Strategies, I suggest calling a national political reporter such as Bill Schneider, David Broder, Charlie Cook, Stu Rothenberg and ask themselves as to the credibility of POS.
IF POS were not the gold standard of polling companies, the Wall Street Journal and NBC News would not use them. Regardless of the links from national liberal organizations disparaging their previous work (because those organizations were working for Democrats who came out poorly in POS released polls.)
One of Schock’s opponent’s responded to my earlier post asking me to release crosstabs, the answers to every question etc. I don’t think the coach of Ilinois is going to give his play book to the coach of USC. That is internal strategy and they know that.
My last word on the subject. I’m now going to enjoy my Christmas. Anyone who wants to keep discounting this poll, go right ahead. I only release accurate poll results. We’ll all know for sure on Feb 5th. Watch, wait and learn.
Mr. Shearer:
The LONE negative question about Schock seems to be whether or not having a family would affect how the respondant voted.
What other negative question was asked regarding Schock?
Steve,
When are you ever going to undetstand that when you write 2,300 word essays on a blog OR 8 page long direct mail pieces no one reads them.
The implication of unethical business practices on either McConoughey or Morris’s part in your poll is pathetic.
If you ran highly negative pieces regarding Schock in that push poll, before a final confirmation of their support, I would like to ask you to share those negative pieces with all of us on this blog. We already heard the garbage your robots spouted about the other two the least you can do to help us believe in the credidbility of your poll is release all of the questions.
I know you won’t do it, but its worth a try. As for your Christmas celebration, I hope you enjoy your time in your icy cavern devising more dasterdly ways you can control elections in the town of Whoville…
Billy
There were several negative questions on Aaron Schock but that is part of the Illinois coach not giving the USC coach his internal play book.
You keep missing the point though, the clean head to head question was asked at the front of the poll.
Bravo, it is your right to pitch anything you get from the Schock campaign. Obviously something is resonating.
And it is certainly your right to disbelieve everything in the poll too.
Again, well see what is correct on Feb 5th.
Who–seriously–is surprised Schock and sidekick Shearer are being negative and deceitful and, when accused of being such, vehemently deny it!?! What’s the Shakespeare line about protesting too much?
With McCon’s pitiful fundraising efforts to date, perhaps he will drop out and support Morris? McCon has to be on the “anyone but Schock” cruiseship…Or, if pigs don’t learn to fly first, perhaps the Dems will fine a real gem to replace Versace in Nov.??
Shearer: “There were several negative questions on Aaron Schock but that is part of the Illinois coach not giving the USC coach his internal play book.”
Yet once the game’s over, the Illini coach is happy to discuss the game and how it was played.
The poll is over. Complete. Done with. Hundreds of likely GOP primary voters heard these questions. Yet my source mentioned just one, not the several you say were asked.
Don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll hear from others who took this poll. Eventually, I’ll find out, and it will be the subject of future posts.
Oh, my gosh! Mr. Shearer is not telling the truth about Schock’s negative push poll! But didn’t he used to work for Jerry Weller a/k/a Mr. Integrity!?!
All kidding aside, there is only one reason the Schock/Shearer team would pull these dirty tricks: Schock isn’t doing very well. He may still be ahead, but he’s slipping…fast.
Steve, just a couple of things before you enjoy your Christmas.
I am not a Schock opponent, I am a Shearer opponent. Granted I don’t like Aaron in this race, but it’s more his connection to you that I don’t like. I simply don’t trust anyone who has worked with Jerry Weller or has questionable campaign practices like yours (I know, this is where you deny the mailer during the Sloan race, defend your ridiculous assault of Tari Renner, etc. etc etc.). Aaron isn’t qualified for the position based upon his issue statements, but I’m one of those informed voters.
I also think your understanding of a push poll is very limited based upon your explanation. Push polling goes beyond the last week of the campaign, etc.
POS is the gold standard…and some also claim that Fox News is the gold standard of journalism. Just ask Bill O’Reilly.
You came on the blog and tried to claim transparency in your polling, then you claim internal strategy concerns. I can’t wait to see which negative information about your opponents comes out as a result of your “internal strategy” polling. Those of us who understand numbers know that there is far more to the poll that what is being revealed…and you don’t seem to deny that.
Seems that something got you a little worked up about the poll. Interesting. Of course, I am sure you won’t fault us when we don’t believe a word you say. In all honesty, any credibility you had left among those following the game was lost when you defended the Taiwan nukes idea. Sorry to share the bad news.
So why not jump on board with the plan I presented…talk to UIS about doing a poll? Didn’t catch your response on that idea.
Steve,
No one belives that long winded and convoluted diatribe that you so easily let fall out of that pie hole of yours.
You are the Grand Poohba of the Dirty Tricks Club.
I’m no fan of Schock, and I would rather see either of the other two candidates get the nomination, but I think the poll numbers are within the realm of believability (Schock 58%, McConoughey 14%, Morris 4%) with a ~5 pt. margin of error. I’m guessing the remaining 24% is undecided.
But let’s face it — suppose this poll is inflating Schock’s numbers by 10%. In a three-way race, he still most likely wins. I think the only real shot of defeating him is for either Morris or McConoughey to drop out and throw his support behind the other candidate.
Summers comments are right on target…Shearer’s explanation is correct and within standard polling practice….It’s not a Classic “Push Poll”…However, even without a recent poll, I am sure Schock is still way ahead…..Morris and McConoughey blew their chance for a three way race when they failed to follow up on Schock’s announcement rant with paid media BEFORE the Holidays….Morris and McConoughey are competing for second place
The real scandal, AND IT IS SCANDOLOUS, is Shearer openly admits to what he calls the “informed ballot questions” which Manning confirms defamed both McCOnoughey and Morris and called into question their ethics and integrity. However, Shearer informed us that after his polling firm called voters and lied about McConoughey and Morris, and supposedly said negative things about Schock ,(no one believes this) BOTH McConoughey and Morris go down in the numbers and Schock goes up…
This should be the headlining story on every 18th District newspaper and the leading story on both the radio news stories and TV news. It won’t be though…
I mean come on, Aaron Schock’s campaign manager admits to this “informed ballot polling” which, as confirmed by a credible elected official, attacked the character of the other two candidates in the race.
And for God’s sakes when is a reporter going to ask Mr. Shearer what his connection is/was to the government of Saudi Arabia. It was LONG rumored when he came to town, around GOP circles, that he was a lobbyist or employee of the Saudi government. With Aaron Strangelove promoting nuclear war isn’t it about time we shed some light on the Wizard of Sleaze that’s behind the curtain pulling all of the strings????
Wonderboy, so you supported Renner over Weller? Either you are a Democrat or a RINO Republcian in name only. All I see here is guilt by association. What exactly has anyone here done wrong?
You all are attacking Shock and his manager cause they are in front. People can’t be kicked in the behind if they are not out in front.
Get off it. Shock has run the cleanest campaigns I’ve ever seen. LaHood didn’t run negative ads cause he’s been unopposed or had that Wetherington guy. BUT BUT BUT every single other candidate in close races has had negative ads and flyers. So are those all dirty tricks?
Topinka and Blagjoveich had more negative mailings and commercials ever. All dirty tricks?
Our mayor ran a negative campaign against the old mayor. Was that repulsive dirty tricks? Manning ran one of the dirtiest, nastiest campaigns ever against Gail Thetford. Said she never retrunred calls and now he does the same thing.
I read these blogs all the time and I’ve never commented. I remember 11bravo complaining about being attacked personally instead of his message. Now his last post is shrill. He sounds like a big sore loser. Thats it from this old guy. Straight and honest.
Shock isn’t perfect like everyone else but he’s way above everybody else I’ve seen run for office around here.
Huh. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! The Manning Campaign used push polling when he ran against Thetford. Manning’s push poll centered around his theme at the time, “balance.” Did I favor balanced city government (er, yeah, Bob, I also favor world peace and composting) and would I vote for a candidate dedicated to balance? Was I aware of the spending habits of my current council representative? A weak push poll, but a push poll nonetheless.
Werner, you may believe that Schock and Shearer’s campaigns have been positive, but I would tend to disagree. Perhaps I have a little too much inside knowledge to believe the claims of innocence.
Having met both Weller and Renner, I would choose Renner in a heartbeat for any seat over Weller. Apparently many of us who lean Republican liked Renner better…he won the historically conservative Mclean County by 1700 votes. It’s not so much that I am a RINO or Democrat (I lean R, but that seems to be changing daily), it’s that anyone would have been better than Weller. And by the way, Shearer’s actions in that campaign were not guilt by association. He ran it, and it was dirty…lies, half-truths, and disgusting campaign practices.
And I will never follow the logic of “he’s better than the rest of these chumps.” We need to expect the best of those who serve in office. Not perfection, but more than selling nukes to Taiwan or lying in campaigns.
I didn’t really follow the Manning campaign, but if he did use push polling then he should be able to recognize it
Billy, I am glad to hear the game is over so all “play books†should be opened. That being said, I hope you do not mind being candid by answering these questions:
1) Since you already called on the Schock campaign to release everything in their poll, why don’t you call on McConoughey and Morris to do the same?
McConoughey’s poll was done over a month ago & you have yet to post any numbers from his campaign except to take Matt Bisbee’s word that Schock is below 50%, McConoughey is in the 20s and Morris is in the single digits. I’d like to see what the questions were in McConoughey’s poll too before casting doubt on ANY of them.
2) If I read & understood the posts correctly, the poll’s first question asked which candidate was their preference before detailed questions on the candidates were asked. How does everyone explain Schock leading those initial results?
3) Are you a polling expert? If not, and for the record I am not even close to being one either as I am just an interested party. Have you called a political science or statistics professor or someone in the national media questioning the legitimacy of the poll and the polling company?
Before you, me or anyone else make claims against McConoughey or Schocks’ poll shouldn’t we practice what “citizen journalism†is all about: “to provide independent, reliable, accurate, wide-ranging and relevant information that a democracy requires?†By your own admittance, you have heard only SOME of the questions used in the Schock poll but that hasn’t stopped you from throwing the term “push poll†around or questioning its legitimacy without knowing all of the facts, which leads me to my fourth question.
4) Is Citizen Journalism practiced only when it fits your agenda?
“I’m amazed that any legitimate poll “completed†on Dec. 18-19 could show 58 percent of likely primary voters would vote for Schock.†– Billy Dennis.
With comments like that it sure does not sound like an unbiased take on your part. What happens if Schock wins on February 5, Billy? Will you be amazed that any legitimate election conducted on February 5 could show Schock as the winner? I can see Peoria Pundit’s headline story on the morning of February 6 now: “Election recount needed! How I could be so dead wrong?â€
Don’t need to have my morning coffee now because I’m all wound up!
Polly — you are only half right. Yes, I did polling before my primary election. I reached into the archives and pulled out the 4 questions: 1) rate the most important issue facing your neighborhood; 2) rate Ms. Thetford’s responsiveness to constituent concerns; 3) If election were held today, who would you vote for?; 4) if you learned that Bob Manning supported a balanced approach…..are you more likely to support him? No leading questions. No negative inferences to other candidates. Nothing about spending habits — where did you get that one? The poll results confirmed what I (and fellow challenger Angela Anderson) had been hearing from residents first hand in meetings and door to door visits. When Billy Dennis called and asked me if I had received a phone survey regarding the congressional race, I said yes and relayed some of the questions. The point I made is that there were certainly negative inferences and negative comments made about Rep. Schock’s challengers (such as “candidate xx is fiscally irresponsible…” or “if you knew this about candidate xx, are you more or less likely to vote for him?). To an average joe like me, that is negative push polling. A seasoned campaign manager may differ but let’s not get into parsing words. Rep. Schock is and will be a tough opponent for any challenger, but I don’t see how negative polling like this helps or is even necessary. To correct a statement in Bill’s last paragraph, I did not say that there was strong anti-Schock sentiment among GOP voters. What I said is voter support for his challengers is not anti-Schock sentiment as much as it is simply believing that they are are strong candidates in their own right.
Mr. Manning: You are right. You did NOT say that. I’m editing that sentence to be more clear.
There is so much lost in all of this:
A. We have local media reporting on polling released by a campaign from a less than reputable firm.
B. We have a campaign manage who hass been associated with scandals in the past writing essays defending what is clearly a bad poll
C. We have a frontrunner candidate who is scared and continues to conduct polls to try to squash the competition because he knows his campaign has been nothing short of disastrous thus far. Schock could have said next to nothing and picked up his ticket to DC. Instead, he’s being seen as the young, inexperienced, puppeteered candidate that he is:
1) Nukes to Taiwan
2) Giuliani chair, but says he doesn’t support a presidential candidate(because his stated positions fly in the face of Giulkian’s pro gay marriage, pro choice and por gun control positions.)
3) No cameras on him during debates by other candidates?!
4) A supposed 40% lead on all candidates with a small margin lead in fundraising(not counting his own 50,000 contributuion)? Interesting isn’t it?
Schock may have some good qualities, but his campaign has been filled with lies and fraud to this point.
I pray Morris or McConoughey beats him.
I don’t think anyone really knew much about the Mac poll, so I’m not sure what Bill would have asked for as far as results. However, I still think the best option if for a third party to run a pll which is free of bias or agenda. I’m not completely sure why a frontrunner would release these results at this time, but if I were running things I might do it to get the 5 days of coverage and quash last-minute fundraising.
I’m not a “polling expert” myself, but I have done enough statistical work to know that without the full results we couldn’t fully analyze the poll. However, based on reputation alone there is enough to question the poll’s validity.
McConoughey didn’t send out a press release about his polling results, Schock did. There is a significant difference between using polling to devise internal polling and using a poll to convince public opinion that you are the only possible candidate.
First, morris has a reputable media firm and they took a poll just like schock’s with message questions at the end testing negative themes on schock and Mconuahey. I know it, i got the call. and i could tell the focus was on john. it was in late October or early november.
then I searched the archives and sure as can be, mconuahey’s campaign manager did talk about a poll a couple months ago where,” AFTER voters were informed about each candidate,” mcconauhey’s numbers rose up. they didn’t release those questions and Billy Dennis didn’t ask them to.
and while the poll is DONE. the election it was taken for is not.
so all this is just this, each of the three campaigns have done the same thing which is run their campaigns for congress the professional way by the book.
But there is a big difference when the “who do would you vote for” question is asked before the descriptions are made. morris never released anything about his poll. mcCouaughey only released the results to one question about who voters supported, AFTER their subjective descriptions of the candidates were read. and those desciptive questions were not released.
so without anyting to prove otherwise, it’s hard to disbelieve schock’s numbers until an experenced polling company is used by someone else.
this is sick though, how nasty these comments are. a campaign releases a poll and we have all these posts. believe it or deny it. it’s your choice but no need to go back and forth about all this. and remember the same scrutiny was not done with other polls.
and to “interested party,” Billy D was “amazed at the results” of the Spears/Schock race. look back, just a week before the election he said, no way was schock going to win as big as commenters were saying.
this isn’t meant to be smug, it’s just a reminder of the past.
That Spears/Schock poll did not follow a month of bad press for Schock.
11Bravo YOU ARE WRONG.
LOOK AT PEORIA PUNDIT’S BLOG FROM OCTOBER 10, 2007.
MCCONAUGHY DID SEND OUT A PRESS RELEASE ON HIS POLL.
AND IT FOCUSED ON HOW HIS SUPPORT ROSE WHEN THE CANDIDATE’S BLIND BIOGRAPHIES WERE READ. BUT THEY NEVER EVER RELEASE THE PHRASING OF THOSE BIOS. SO USING YOUR DESCRIPTION OF SCHOCK’S POLL MCONAUGHY DID DO A PUSH POLL AND SENT A PRESS RELEASE ON OCTOBER 10,2007
YOU ARE JUST FLAT OUT WRONG.
This is the post to which “Contributor” refers.
Much of the discussion was about getting access to the details — the questions asked, the order, etc.
I recall asking the campaign for such details and was given a firm “no.”
What the campaign didn’t do was have it’s campaign manager make frequest comments, keeping the controversy alive.
And I will reinterate my own policy: If any campaign sends me a press release, I will print it. I do this so my readers have an unfiltered look at the words that are coming out of the mouths of the candidates, like on C-SPAN. I and my readers are free to comment.
Interested Party made some good points but I find it even more interesting that the critics of the poll have yet to address any of those questions, including the moderator.
I think comparing your treatment of McConoughey’s poll to Schock’s is comparing apples to oranges. I didn’t find any comments made by you questioning McConoughey’s results like you did Schock’s therefore, there was no need for McConoughey to defend his results, especially when you view them without question.
McConoughey’s team are political veterans and if they were attacked about the validity of their poll, I am sure they would respond as well.
I’m not going to defend Bill on this…he is capable of speaking for himself. However, I do find it humorous that I asked many of the same questions of the Mac campaign as I asked of the Schock campaign on that post. Interesting…but of course I am a “Schock opponent.”
By the way “contributor to two”, Shearer spoke about the poll from November. The poll you reference is from October. I still haven’t seen any evidence of Mac’s poll from November, so my earlier statement seems pretty accurate.
Wonderboy, I think you will find it helpful to you review your comments from both the Schock & McConoughey poll posts. Let me refresh your memory. Here are your two posts of what you said regarding McConoughey’s numbers:
* Bill, is there any way that you could convince your contact in the campaign to release the bios that were read to the respondents. I would be interested to see if the bios were accurate and how well they attempted to avoid bias. At any rate, the numbers do strike me as somewhat promising for a real race in the primary.
* It is humorous how every supporter in every local race likes to accuse Bill of supporting the opponent. I don’t always agree with him, but I don’t know if I have seen him reveal his colors on this race. At any rate, it would still be beneficial to see the poll…but I am highly doubtul that the technical parts will ever be released.
The comments regarding Schock’s are too numerous to post but here are your first couple:
* Sorry, but this poll smells funny. I’m treating it like leftover Chinese…once it starts to smell even a little, it’s best to toss it in the garbage. The numbers don’t make sense, the sample is questionable, and the agency has a history of push polling. Timing is also interesting…release the great results the Friday before the Christmas weekend to let the numbers sit in the news cycle for 5 days. Well played by Shearer, but I also think it’s a load of junk.
* What were the rest of the questions? How was the random smaple selected? What about cross tabs, correlations, regressions, and factor analyses (assuming more questions were asked than the “key questionâ€)? And why no response to the questions regarding the somewhat checkered past of the polling firm which you selected?
I think most of us would believe that Schock is the leader in the race, but the numbers claimed seem a little odd based upon recent events. They may hold true, but based upon the recent tornado of negative press (â€not just something that he pulled out of his pocket … It’s a deeply thought-out policyâ€), they seem a little odd.
I have a great idea for the poll which you suggest…ask some UIS grad students to run a poll as a project. They could use the experience, they are in the district, and the professors who provide oversight could ensure accurate analysis of responses. Plus, it could be made public without the potential spin of any campaign. What do you think?
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I, nor anyone else on this post, I think, claimed you to be a Schock opponent but I do think your initial comments to each of these posts are revealing. Your comments on McConoughey accept the fact that they will not release the details but the results look promising to you despite the fact however, you completely dismiss the results for Schock immediately. The idea you were trying to convey in your last post is humorous to me too – only because you were trying to explain to us that you were being fair.
You should read more closely…
Steve Shearer: “One of Schock’s opponent’s responded to my earlier post asking me to release crosstabs, the answers to every question etc.” He was referring to my question.
My request of the Mac campaign was the first comment in the thread. I have admittedly stated that I question Shearer and any of his candidates by default. Shearer has a past which causes his credibility to be questioned immediately, Mac and Morris’ crews do not. However, if you are analyzing my comments so closely, you should have seen that Shearer himself claimed that I was an opponent of Schock. Furthermore, Mac’s campaign (as Bill pointed out) didn’t use any poll in a fashion similar to Schock.
I will continue to ask all campaigns to release full results and questions. I know they won’t, but that won’t change the request.
And above all…Merry Christmas. I think we all need a vacation.
wondertim, you said you have seen no evidence of mac’s poll from November. In Schoenberg’s column, mac’s manager Bisbee talks of their poll on Nov 13 and 14. so mac apparently had a poll in both early oct and early nov. and the Oct poll was released in exactly the same fashion as the schock poll.
Well I see we are trying to out someone, though I don’t know who “Tim” is. I apologize to him for creating a false belief that I am him. But way to deal with the issue at hand.
I haven’t seen evidence of the poll…there was no press release. There was no discussion of it until the Schock column, and even then it was in response to a question.
Oct poll in the exact same fashion? Okay. Perhaps we need to define exact, but you can have that opinion.
hmmm. it a ppears the polls and the final results match up. i guess the polls aren’t so wrong now, are they? Schocking!!