Comments on: Politics: Colleen Callahan – Wheres the beef? http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/ Media and news from the original river city Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:25:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Good Year For The Outlaw » Blog Archive » Hey, Aaron, Where's The Beef? http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-104042 Good Year For The Outlaw » Blog Archive » Hey, Aaron, Where's The Beef? Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:24:23 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-104042 [...] Vespa recently asked Colleen Callahan, candidate for the 18th District House Seat in Illinois, “where’s the beef?” regarding Ms. Callahan’s supposed “vagueness” and “lack of [...] [...] Vespa recently asked Colleen Callahan, candidate for the 18th District House Seat in Illinois, “where’s the beef?” regarding Ms. Callahan’s supposed “vagueness” and “lack of [...]

]]> By: bjstone http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103975 bjstone Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:50:57 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103975 Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what earth-shattering "beef" Mr. Schock brings to the table on health care. Meanwhile, I’m still waiting for someone to tell me what earth-shattering “beef” Mr. Schock brings to the table on health care.

]]> By: Louis Howe http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103945 Louis Howe Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:28:55 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103945 11Bravo...I agree that government wastes a lot of taxpayer money...i.e. Military toilet seats and general weapon systems that don't work....However, government administrative costs for Medicare and Social Security are less than 2% of expenditures and represent a small fraction of private insurance overhead ....As for your faith in for-profit insurance companies to cover beneficial health treatments vs relying on government guidelines, I believe the self interest of insurance company profit motive is a much more limiting factor than the negative influence of a bureaucrat subject to political pressure. Perhaps you’ve had better luck getting your HMO to change payment policies than most other Americans have experienced as evidenced by HMOs receiving consistently high negative ratings in public opinion polling. 11Bravo…I agree that government wastes a lot of taxpayer money…i.e. Military toilet seats and general weapon systems that don’t work….However, government administrative costs for Medicare and Social Security are less than 2% of expenditures and represent a small fraction of private insurance overhead ….As for your faith in for-profit insurance companies to cover beneficial health treatments vs relying on government guidelines, I believe the self interest of insurance company profit motive is a much more limiting factor than the negative influence of a bureaucrat subject to political pressure. Perhaps you’ve had better luck getting your HMO to change payment policies than most other Americans have experienced as evidenced by HMOs receiving consistently high negative ratings in public opinion polling.

]]> By: postsimian http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103940 postsimian Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:12:06 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103940 The only ones saying Canadian healthcare sucks are American health insurance companies. I want references on all these Canadians alledgedly jumping the border. Anybody? The only ones saying Canadian healthcare sucks are American health insurance companies. I want references on all these Canadians alledgedly jumping the border. Anybody?

]]> By: 11Bravo http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103934 11Bravo Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:13:13 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103934 You're exactly right Louis, we should relinquish that deicison of whether or not a treatment or procedure is "cost effective" to a government bureaucrat. I would much rather have them making decisions regarding my health. Don't begin the lecture on back room paper pushing and overhead, for God's sake you're talking about the GOVERNMENT. Having been involved in government bureaucracy at both the local, state, and especially at the federal level I would bet my life that no organization has more back room paper pushing and overhead then the government. I can't even believe you threw that argument out there... I nearly fell out of my chair. You’re exactly right Louis, we should relinquish that deicison of whether or not a treatment or procedure is “cost effective” to a government bureaucrat. I would much rather have them making decisions regarding my health.

Don’t begin the lecture on back room paper pushing and overhead, for God’s sake you’re talking about the GOVERNMENT. Having been involved in government bureaucracy at both the local, state, and especially at the federal level I would bet my life that no organization has more back room paper pushing and overhead then the government. I can’t even believe you threw that argument out there… I nearly fell out of my chair.

]]> By: Louis Howe http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103932 Louis Howe Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:18:14 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103932 Oh Yeah, the Canadians, French, Swedes, Germans…all have much better heath stats, and the public opinion support for their systems far exceeds America’s. Look around Peoria…Whose building the most fancy new facilities---Doctor groups and Hospitals….Do they ever consider how wasteful those expenditures are when these behemoths are paid for by sick patient money. Try and get an appointment, as I did just yesterday, and have to wait two months. Take your ideological blinders off….The current private insurance based system spends nearly 30% of every health care dollar on back room paper pushing and overhead while other countries spend less 10%. The AMA and drug companies rely upon voter ignorance and apathy to maintain a poorly ran and overly bureaucratic, but very profitable for them, health care industry. Oh Yeah, the Canadians, French, Swedes, Germans…all have much better heath stats, and the public opinion support for their systems far exceeds America’s. Look around Peoria…Whose building the most fancy new facilities—Doctor groups and Hospitals….Do they ever consider how wasteful those expenditures are when these behemoths are paid for by sick patient money. Try and get an appointment, as I did just yesterday, and have to wait two months. Take your ideological blinders off….The current private insurance based system spends nearly 30% of every health care dollar on back room paper pushing and overhead while other countries spend less 10%. The AMA and drug companies rely upon voter ignorance and apathy to maintain a poorly ran and overly bureaucratic, but very profitable for them, health care industry.

]]> By: 11Bravo http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103930 11Bravo Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:00:53 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103930 Tony beat me to it... Tony beat me to it…

]]> By: Tony http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103926 Tony Thu, 24 Apr 2008 01:38:14 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103926 Yes Louis... Universally crappy coverage. Please, is that what we really want? Talk to the Canadians who come across the border and pay out of pocket prices in the US because the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada sucks. Yes Louis… Universally crappy coverage.

Please, is that what we really want? Talk to the Canadians who come across the border and pay out of pocket prices in the US because the quality and availability of healthcare in Canada sucks.

]]> By: Louis Howe http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103923 Louis Howe Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:59:32 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103923 When will Small Businesses, including Real Estate brokers like Ms. Vespa, understand that the current U.S. health care private insurance based delivery system is the wrong paradigm? Every other industrialized nation provides universal coverage at sustainutally (40% +) less cost. We have to get past imposing ideological “Free Market” solutions to a service that doesn’t respond to market dynamics. We stop pouring money into a leaky bucket and fixed the bucket. When will Small Businesses, including Real Estate brokers like Ms. Vespa, understand that the current U.S. health care private insurance based delivery system is the wrong paradigm? Every other industrialized nation provides universal coverage at sustainutally (40% +) less cost. We have to get past imposing ideological “Free Market” solutions to a service that doesn’t respond to market dynamics. We stop pouring money into a leaky bucket and fixed the bucket.

]]> By: bjstone http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/2008/04/21/politics-colleen-callahan-wheres-the-beef/comment-page-1/#comment-103921 bjstone Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:09:11 +0000 http://peoriapundit.com/blogpeoria/?p=10218#comment-103921 So, Aaron's "solution" is to "stay the course", because it's my understanding we already have that ability. Is that about right? So, Aaron’s “solution” is to “stay the course”, because it’s my understanding we already have that ability. Is that about right?

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