I guess I’m just another media Brownshirt for making fun of these people.
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I think the birthers are officially overexposed. We get it. They’re nuts. Their 15 minutes are up. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, I think their over exposure may be just a ploy to discredit any criticism of Obama.
Agreed with Dave…let it go Pundit. MSNBC, let it go. CNN, let it go. Let the whackjobs sit in their corner and stew, they’ll find something else to talk about soon enough.
Yeah the ‘birther’ people are nuts. What is nuttier is polling showing that among Republican voters, this has a LOT of traction, especially in the Republican stronghold South.
This ‘(non) issue’ has a lot of relevancy to the immigration debate which also.. is a hot topic down south.
In the past, I have commented in response to those wanting tighter immigration controls that when it came to ‘legal’ status, less was more. The less documentation you had the more like a citizen you were. All you need is a valid SSN. No really, thats all you need. So… my argument would proceed to ask those reading who are presumably to prove their ‘citizenship’. And… well.. a ‘birth certificate’ was an invalid…. read that again… an invalid piece of paperwork due to its very insecure nature. The long and short was that the only valid legal document establishing your citizenship came down to your passport which in essence is a document from the government validating that you are a citizen. Nothing about a passport discerns whether you are natural born or not.
So… this whole birther thing… for how stupid it is… is also fascinating because it has very real relevancy to the immigration debate. It seems to me that it could backfire on all those birthers too…. can they prove that they were natural born or even citizens? If they were to successfully invalidate the Hawaiin birth certificate, it has national implications for millions of folks and municipalities who keep these records.
Sorry to say this but my sense is that this is rooted in chauvinism and race. He isn’t white enough nor grounded enough in the American heartland for these people. The same crap is directed to immigrants, even naturalized legal ones. No amount of paperwork or proof will ever satisfy them. This is the real issue and it needs to be confronted head on.
Birthers are old news. The brownshirts are the union and acorn folks that’ve suddenly shown up at townhall meetings to strong arm the anti-Obama care protestors.
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I think the birthers are officially overexposed. We get it. They’re nuts. Their 15 minutes are up. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy nut, I think their over exposure may be just a ploy to discredit any criticism of Obama.
Agreed with Dave…let it go Pundit. MSNBC, let it go. CNN, let it go. Let the whackjobs sit in their corner and stew, they’ll find something else to talk about soon enough.
Here’s a conspiracy theory for you: Ann Coulter disavowed the birthers in order to give them more credibility.
Yeah the ‘birther’ people are nuts. What is nuttier is polling showing that among Republican voters, this has a LOT of traction, especially in the Republican stronghold South.
This ‘(non) issue’ has a lot of relevancy to the immigration debate which also.. is a hot topic down south.
In the past, I have commented in response to those wanting tighter immigration controls that when it came to ‘legal’ status, less was more. The less documentation you had the more like a citizen you were. All you need is a valid SSN. No really, thats all you need. So… my argument would proceed to ask those reading who are presumably to prove their ‘citizenship’. And… well.. a ‘birth certificate’ was an invalid…. read that again… an invalid piece of paperwork due to its very insecure nature. The long and short was that the only valid legal document establishing your citizenship came down to your passport which in essence is a document from the government validating that you are a citizen. Nothing about a passport discerns whether you are natural born or not.
So… this whole birther thing… for how stupid it is… is also fascinating because it has very real relevancy to the immigration debate. It seems to me that it could backfire on all those birthers too…. can they prove that they were natural born or even citizens? If they were to successfully invalidate the Hawaiin birth certificate, it has national implications for millions of folks and municipalities who keep these records.
Sorry to say this but my sense is that this is rooted in chauvinism and race. He isn’t white enough nor grounded enough in the American heartland for these people. The same crap is directed to immigrants, even naturalized legal ones. No amount of paperwork or proof will ever satisfy them. This is the real issue and it needs to be confronted head on.
Birthers are old news. The brownshirts are the union and acorn folks that’ve suddenly shown up at townhall meetings to strong arm the anti-Obama care protestors.