Apparently, some of my commenters are getting all their health-care reform news from Rush Limbaugh. So, to provide some clarity, here are five health care myths being spread by the GOP.
Hopefully, this will reduce the wacka-doodle in the comments section.
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Actually, the “Die With Dignity” portion of the bill suggests just that very thing.
And that’s if you ignore the inevitable rationing of care that must happen. Who do you think is most likely to be denied care?
Scott, read the damn article. I posted the list for a reason. Oh, hell, here it is:
In other words, it would pay for consultations with health care providers for people who simply don’t want extraordinary measures taken. HARDLY Obama wants to kill your grandma. You have to take a bunch of paranoid pills for this to become government mandated euthanasia.
Billy, you’re too smart to think that the elderly won’t be the first to suffer a reduction in their quality of care under proposed reform.
Obama himself has said that measure HIS grandmother enjoyed wouldn’t be available under his plan. Why? Because they would have too little benefit for the cost.
It doesn’t have to be mandated euthanasia for it to be encouraged of the default setting.
And i wasn’[t aware that REQUIRED “death with dignity” consultations were “not mandatory”.
But whatever. Not like my opinion matter, since by my dissent i’m proven to be a “Big Insurance Shill”.
the part I’m talking about, btw, is Section 1233, which you’ll find starts on page 434 of the PDF for the current form of the HRC bill.
As if the Medical Mafia weren’t already rationing care and there weren’t already thousands of elderly suffering no care at all much less a “reduction” … nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’. We need a single payer health care system without all the Medical Mafia extortion. We don’t need health insurance reform … we need HEALTH CARE! It is simply wrong that people should be held ransom to pain, disease, and suffering.
Why don’t you just read the bill Billy. The notion that you think you just debunked all of the debate that has being going on in the comments by quoting Salon magazine is pretty ridiculous. For one, because its Salon magazine, and second because all you have to do is read the damn bill yourself. I’m not saying that the Salon article is wrong and I am also not saying all of the info out there about the bill is correct, but I’ve at least gone through it.
You still have never answered my earlier question which was what about your private insurance do you dislike so much that you are in support of this bill?
“As if the Medical Mafia weren’t already rationing care and there weren’t already thousands of elderly suffering no care at all much less a “reduction””
Cite examples, not un-cited numbers. My grandfather had a hip operation and over a week of medical care due to pneumonia at the age of 90-something.
Nice job with the demagoguery with “Medical Mafia”, though.
Wait, aren’t 100% of our seniors on Medicare? How is it then that the “medical mafia” are to blame for that? Huh?
Or does the medical mafia include Medicare? In which case: why again give more control to the government?
In any closed system, any time the player and the umpire are the same person there will be no justice.
The article you linked to makes some decent points, but surprisingly they don’t take the time to undercut the misleading rhetoric of the left at all.
Like: 62% of all bankruptcies are medical bankruptices (Obama once said “1 every 30 seconds” which would be 103% of all bankruptices, btw). First of all medical bankruptcies are down, and second the way they define “medical bankruptcy” is that if you had over a certain $ of medical bills before declaring bankruptcy it’s a medical bankruptcy. It doesn’t matter if an insurance company paid the bills, whether you were insured, or whether the $ amount of your credit card debt was 30-40x the medical bills. UC Davis did a study and the actual number is closer to 18%. Hardly a crsis.
Like: 46M uninsured have no access to health care. Almost 30% of that 46M ALREADY QUALIFY for Medicaid or SCHIP. And those are running so well, especially here in IL that we could take another 3 or 4 Million enrollees, I’m guessing, without slowing down the underpayment times at all. Besides, what’s a few more months when you’re a year behind already.
Billy, there needs to be a non-profit part to health care. I agree with that. It’s why I do what I do. But if all if it is government provided, it will not be non-profit. The profit will just get moved from the market to the lobbyists.
The government could improve things quite a bit by deregulating. Do you know that right now in Illinois if you wanted to spend a Billion $ of your own money to open a free hospital it’s illegal. Yup. Illegal.
This is the government you want to give the industry to. Think twice.
Billy, you are the only “reader” that took the extreme leap to euthanasia. This reader suggested that at the age of 75 a new hip wouldn’t be approved.
The Rush Limbaugh barb made me look twice to ensure that I hadn’t navigated to the Anti-Pundit in error.
one of the myths Salon tries to debunk is that Obama won’t take away private health insurance. he will. this is merely the first step. he has said so. one step at a time. “at first we won’t be able to take away employer paid health insurance.” “i favor single payer health care.” both real quotes from a president who is a socialist with a strategy of getting as much as possible now on the road to full out socialism. remember he told joe the plumber that he (Obama) seeks to take some of joe’s money and equal the playing field by redistributing it to those obama feels are in need. classic socialist.
his plan also stops paying for procedures for grandma and grandpa at certain ages.
“I favor…” means nothing other than that if he had his way, that’s the way he’d do things. Chances are he’s not going to get his way.
I heard Don Wade use this same argument last week on WLS. Let me put it this way, I personally favor someone kicking Don Wade’s old ass, but I know it’s not going to happen.
So … no “death panels?”
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I got an email for a concerned user regarding government involvement in our computer systems. They attached a Glenn Beck youtube clip to the email
People really are stupid PP, just give up.
Never!